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The 'gossiping sheep' who are grazing away our wildfire risk

One of the lambs currently grazing the San Marcos Foothills Preserve in Santa Barbara County
Susie Clothier
One of the lambs currently grazing the San Marcos Foothills Preserve in Santa Barbara County

Seeing goats or sheep grazing in the Tri-Counties, to help with the wildfire risk, has become a familiar sight, but who takes care of them?

There are blue skies, a cold wind and a view across to the Channel Islands here in San Marcos Foothill Preserve in Santa Barbara County.

But for Jenya Schneider it’s her office. This is not a job she can do from home or over Zoom.

"They say it's the second oldest profession," said Schneider. "I am a shepherd, modern day shepherd."

And she’s one of the owners of Cuyama Lamb, whose flock are currently grazing in the preserve.

They have a flock of about 1000 sheep – based on the Gaviota Coast. We walk into the Preserve to find around 330 sheep working here - enclosed in an expansive pen, surrounded by electric fencing.

"They looks so natural on the landscape," she enthuses.

They are protected overnight by guardian dogs, who stay up overnight to scare off any predatory local wildlife. Schneider's faithful sheepdog who helps to round up the sheep follows her quietly by her heel.

The sheep are used to graze the land for a few reasons but one of the main ones is to reduce the risks from wildfire.

"Grazing can help be part of the mosaic of answers to how we get to live alongside wildfire in a safe way. California is a wildfire ecology and we need that but we need to be safe in our homes and communities while those wildfires happen.," said Schneider.

She added, "These guys are such a wonderful and adorable part of that solution."

Susie Clothier
Jenya Schneider is a shepherd taking care of the flock of sheep grazing the San Marco Foothills

Schneider says that shepherding has evolved to include a little more office work than a couple of thousand years ago, but much of the job is traditional practices.

"Now my job is really shepherd and business owner so it's a mix of things. We are shepherds who follow modern labor laws so it's a little different to traditional ways," said Schneider.

Schneider rises a little after sunrise, and then spends her days checking on the sheep's health and welfare in person.

There are around 330 ewes and lambs at the site
Caroline Feraday
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KCLU
There are around 330 ewes and lambs at the site

It’s not a bad life for these Merino sheep, whose soft wool will be shorn in the Spring – which Schneider says will be made into natural fiber clothing. And being around them this often, means she’s able to speak some limited, erm, sheep…

"They have certain bahs for when they find water, or for lambs and mothers looking for each others," said Schneider.

"The teenagers, the yearlings, gossip and tell rumors all the time. It drives me crazy!" said Schneider.

So next time you hear a sheep bleating, just know they could be gossiping about you!

Caroline joined KCLU in October 2020. She won LA Press Club's Audio Journalist of the Year Award for three consecutive years in 2022, 2023 and 2024.

Since joining the station she's also won 12 Golden Mike Awards, 8 Los Angeles Press Club Journalism Awards, 4 National Arts & Entertainment Journalism Awards and three Regional Edward R. Murrow Awards for Excellence in Writing, Diversity and Use of Sound.

She started her broadcasting career in the UK, in both radio and television for BBC News, 95.8 Capital FM and Sky News and was awarded by Prince Philip for her services to radio and journalism in 2007.

She has lived in California for 13 years and is both an American and British citizen and a very proud mom to her daughter, Elsie.